Design Systems WTF #54 - How do you make developers care about the design system?
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3:00 PM - 4:00 PM
Live recording of the fortnightly podcast Design Systems WTF (back for season two!), where Luke Murphy and Michalle Chin attempt to combat all the amazing wtf in design systems. In each episode, they answer a single question around design system troubles with a Q&A from the live audience.
Getting developers interested in the design system still seems to be a challenge for a lot of design system teams in 2026. So how do you get them interested in what you're doing? Do you need to bribe them with snacks? Luke and Michelle discuss ways to get engineers on board, why it's essential, and common pitfalls with design systems sans developers.
Speakers
Luke Murphy
Principal Design Advocate, zeroheight
Luke is the Principal Design Advocate at zeroheight. They host the DesignOps Island Discs podcast, host the WDC conference in Bristol and help organizations worldwide with their design system via their work with zeroheight and DesignOps Assembly. They've worked as a design leader across enterprise and startups, and have a passion for good org design and creating community. When they're not enthusing about designops and design systems, they sing in a queer punk band and make zines.
Michelle Chin
Design systems consultant
Michelle Chin is a design systems and designops consultant, with experience in starting design systems from scratch and then scaling them across a 30+ product portfolio for an enterprise company. She’s also the co-host of the UX In Real Life podcast that examines what UX is really like at work and in the world around us. Michelle is also an environmental justice advocate and works to provide tree equity in Oakland, California.
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3:00 PM - 4:00 PM